My friends like to tell each other that I am not really a born-again Christian. They think of me more along the lines of that old Jonathan Miller routine, where he said, "I'm not really a Jew -- I'm Jew-ish." They think I am Christian-ish. But I'm not. I'm just a bad Christian. A bad born-again Christian. And certainly, like the apostle Peter, I am capable of denying it, of presenting myself as a sort of leftist liberation-theology enthusiast and maybe sort of a vaguely Jesusy bon vivant. But it's not true. And I believe that when you get on a plane, if you start lying you are totally doomed.
So I told the truth; that I am a believer, a convert. I'm probably about three months away from slapping an aluminum Jesus-fish on the back of my car, although I first want to see if the application or stickum in any way interferes with my lease agreement.
From the story "Knocking on Heaven's Door," by Anne Lamottt
I, personally disagree with this whole thing... You are abusing scripture to defend your opinions, with your point on Romans 2:1 it says
ReplyDelete"Therefore you have no excuse, whoever you are, when you judge others; for in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, are doing the very same things."
This is saying don't judge people because we have all sinned and all sin is equally bad BUT saying that someone needs to clean up their life is not judging them, it is simply calling them out on an area of their life that there should be change in.
Matthew 18:15
"If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother.
Many use the excuse of Leviticus saying homosexuality is a abomination and that in the same book it says lobster is a abomination and that god has freed us from the ceremonial traditions and restrictions of what we would now think of as silly, so they say if Jesus freed us from those things, than he has freed us from homosexuality being a sin too right? Wrong. The bible talks about homosexuality in many other verses:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God
Romans 1:26-27 - "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."
I think that there no madder how much you twist those words means homosexuality is a sin! You also used all the verses on love saying that if you love someone you are loving God true but in 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 it says
"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres."
Nowhere in there does it say love is sexual, any sex outside of marriage is lust love is what the verse says it is. You also used the friendship of David and Jonathan and Ruth and Naomi. Never anywhere does it say either of these people had sexual relations, it only implies they were close friends, the bible never says it is wrong to have a close friend of the same sex, it just says there shouldn't be anything sexual between the same gender. I am not saying if you are a man that finds men attractive or a woman who finds woman attractive you are sinning, I am saying if you act on these temptations you are sinning.
I, personally disagree with this whole thing... You are abusing scripture to defend your opinions, with your point on Romans 2:1 it says
ReplyDelete"Therefore you have no excuse, whoever you are, when you judge others; for in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, are doing the very same things."
This is saying don't judge people because we have all sinned and all sin is equally bad BUT saying that someone needs to clean up their life is not judging them, it is simply calling them out on an area of their life that there should be change in.
Matthew 18:15
"If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother.
Many use the excuse of Leviticus saying homosexuality is a abomination and that in the same book it says lobster is a abomination and that god has freed us from the ceremonial traditions and restrictions of what we would now think of as silly, so they say if Jesus freed us from those things, than he has freed us from homosexuality being a sin too right? Wrong. The bible talks about homosexuality in many other verses:
1 Corinthians 6:9-10 - "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God
Romans 1:26-27 - "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion."
I think that there no madder how much you twist those words means homosexuality is a sin! You also used all the verses on love saying that if you love someone you are loving God true but in 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 it says
"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres."
Nowhere in there does it say love is sexual, any sex outside of marriage is lust love is what the verse says it is. You also used the friendship of David and Jonathan and Ruth and Naomi. Never anywhere does it say either of these people had sexual relations, it only implies they were close friends, the bible never says it is wrong to have a close friend of the same sex, it just says there shouldn't be anything sexual between the same gender. I am not saying if you are a man that finds men attractive or a woman who finds woman attractive you are sinning, I am saying if you act on these temptations you are sinning.
oops, I apologize... i meat to write this comment to the homosexuality thing.
ReplyDelete